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Kizer is off-lineSilver Member
30 April 2014 19:04
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I was born in the early fifties and put a casting call out for a certain type of model and it caused quite a argument with a certain word I used,
How times have changed


Peter Hague is off-line
01 May 2014 04:29
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The thing is, when your dad was young "black" was seen as derogatory and "coloured" used as the polite alternative! And then...............



And although "coloured" is a word you must not say, the ultra PC term for non-caucasians these days is "people of colour".

With things like this, it's all in the intent and usage. As above, coloured was the word of my mothers generation, she'd be horrified to find people were making negative inferrances from her use of a simple descriptive word.

Words change over time, such as spastics. It was the name of a charity that had shops in nearly every town. Now it's a bad word.
"I am the one who knocks" - Walter White


Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
01 May 2014 04:32
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Quote from PeterH
Words change over time, such as spastics. It was the name of a charity that had shops in nearly every town. Now it's a bad word.



In the mid 80s it was a commonly heard derogatory term heard in most playgrounds, it was bad but still acceptible to use as a curse word among my peers.  On the odd occasion I've used it at work (most colleages are ~25-30 and I'd have directed it at one of them) they're utterly mortified I'd use such a word, so it's gone from a bad word to a really bad one in my lifetime (and yes, I remember the hilarity at school when using cards/stamps with "The Spastics Society" written on them" ).
When you are dead, you do not know that you are dead. All of your pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when you are stupid.


Gabby_D is off-lineGold Member
01 May 2014 06:47
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The original casting, refered to "Black" and "Oriental model", if I remember.
Now as a man of colour, Black! I don't know of anyone who would be offended by that.
As for the use of the word "Oriental", that is deemed a very derogatory word, so I am assuming that is the word the OP,
was referring to.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the_term_'Oriental'_offensive_to_Asian_people#page1


Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
01 May 2014 07:09
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Quote from gabby_d
As for the use of the word "Oriental", that is deemed a very derogatory word, so I am assuming that is the word the OP, was referring to. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the_term_'Oriental'_offensive_to_Asian_people#page1



But this is prodominantly a British-centric site and so any American slant on it is null/void to a degree, and would also be somewhat confusing to us as here we class asians as being typically from the Indian subcontinent.
When you are dead, you do not know that you are dead. All of your pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when you are stupid.


01 May 2014 07:17
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Quote from gabby_d
The original casting, refered to "Black" and "Oriental model", if I remember. Now as a man of colour, Black! I don't know of anyone who would be offended by that. As for the use of the word "Oriental", that is deemed a very derogatory word, so I am assuming that is the word the OP, was referring to. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the_term_'Oriental'_offensive_to_Asian_people#page1



Link on that page http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_Jewish_people_have_curly_and_long_hair


David Heels is off-line
01 May 2014 08:12
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the_term_'Oriental'_offensive_to_Asian_people




I have a Chinese friend who hates the term Asian, because she thinks it lumps the Chinese in with the Pakistanis.

And I also know an Indian (Hindu) bloke who goes mad if anyone calls him a Muslim.




Monty Python on the subject....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F67JhKT5bxU&feature=kp



Dave


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02 May 2014 14:19
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If this is about the use of the word "Black" in a casting call; my stepdaughter (who I adore) is African. I've just phoned her to ask her to describe her skin colour, she said black. I then asked her what was the colour of her cousins' skins, she said black. I then asked her what was the colour of Barack Obama's skin, she said, "Who's he?" Kids huh? Like the term or not, black/white is in full use out there, and is neither racist nor derogatory, it's just a convenient description - and socially acceptable to the hugest majority of all skin colours.

I also asked my stepdaughter what my skin colour was, after a few seconds' thought she said that at first she couldn't remember - then she said pasty white!

If I've got the wrong casting call I'll shut up



Ummm no the casting has been amended now. It originally referred to black models as "coloured" hence why I suggested to the guy he change it ASAP.
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02 May 2014 14:30
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You lot are literally deluded if you thought I found it offensive that the casting asked for a black model!? Why on earth would anyone find that offensive!?

If you read my post I said I contacted the poster of the casting call to let him know referring to models as "coloured" wasn't acceptable these days and he amended it to. Clearly you saw the amended version.
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Frank Sinnott is off-line
02 May 2014 14:59
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Hear hear Jess it does no harm to point people in the right direction. Yes some of a certain age may find an excuse in their age. It's a poor excuse we have to move with the times whether we like it or not. The bad days of yesteryear were bad years. Thankfully we have moved on to a better place for all. Isn't that the most important consideration a better place for all.



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