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Are photography workshops for the rich ?

PEARCE IMAGES is off-line
25 February 2014 10:15
PAULSHOOTS
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PAULSHOOTS
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United Kingdom
Lancashire
Skelmersdale

In the past I have seen photography workshops behind the scenes on youtube, which look really good. A pro photographer showing a small group of peoples how to take better photos in the classroom and then in the studio with models.

Yeah if you have £800-£1500 quid to spend and walking around with a Nikon D4 or a Canon 5D mark 3 and a 70-200mm lens.

I understand the pro photographer has to make a living to pay the bills and put food on the table. But like myself who has a part-time job, has a second hand Nikon camera and 50mm lens can you see me one of these workshops, the answer is NO.

Just once it would be great to see a pro photographer just bring the price down now and again for amateur photographers like myself who are willing to learn new wonderful skills and tricks. To bring to a shoot and get some of them wonderful photos you dream about.


Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
25 February 2014 10:23
RedChecker
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RedChecker
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United Kingdom
Buckinghamshire
Stoke Mandeville

It depends on your definition of rich. I've attended glamour courses costing as little as ~£100 for a day which includes the studio and model fees, a couple of others have cost me up to £300 a day (but IMO were game changers so worth every penny).

It's not anyone else's fault you can't afford to attend them, and to be honest there's a lot of good stuff on youtube & the like anyway so if you can't afford to go on a course there's plenty of scope to learn there.
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Gerry is off-line
25 February 2014 10:38
Gerry99111
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Gerry99111
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Surrey
Guildford

Quote from PAULSHOOTS
Yeah if you have £800-£1500 quid to spend and walking around with a Nikon D4 or a Canon 5D mark 3 and a 70-200mm lens.



I don't know what sort of training you are referring for this type of money and why camera snobbery is important.

One 2 one tuition with one of two or three of the best photographers / tutors on here will cost a fraction of that and may not even require a pretty lady as a model, you can use each other to demonstrate how to achieve effects / looks.

The pretty ladies in studio run workshops are probably a honey trap to stop you from spotting that the studio owner may not actually be able to teach you anything useful
If you have to ask why I do it, you will never understand the reason why


Daniel Richardson is off-line
25 February 2014 10:54
dannyrich
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dannyrich
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North Yorkshire


McFade workshops look reasonable to me. Not that I have attended.


Paul Jones is off-line
25 February 2014 10:58
Paul_Jones
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Paul_Jones
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United Kingdom
Lancashire
Wigan

Quote from PAULSHOOTS
Just once it would be great to see a pro photographer just bring the price down now and again for amateur photographers like myself who are willing to learn new wonderful skills and tricks.




If you can spare £18 I recommend the 'From Concept to Print' workshops run by Damien Lovegrove.
http://www.prophotonut.com/2014/01/09/the-from-concept-to-print-uk-tour-is-now-live-for-booking/


I attended the one in November and it was fantastic.  Three hours of stunning photography and practical tips and lighting advice.
See - http://www.pauljones.org/?p=754
And - http://www.prophotonut.com/2013/11/07/concept-to-print-pictures-and-technique/


Best regards
Paul


www.PaulJones.org


OldMaster is off-line
25 February 2014 11:07
OldMaster
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OldMaster
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Hertfordshire
Harpenden

It's my impression that many of the workshops on here are run by studio owners to create extra income for themselves with the lure of a model or two. It's a free market of course but I would suggest you take a close look at the photographer's work before opening your wallet. Another issue I have is not just based on the quality of the course proposers work but what experience do they have to teach that knowledge? Given what some choose to charge the money might be better spent on a ten week college course.

I also see no relevance in your comments regarding equipment costs....a consumer level dslr is fine. It is the photographer who defines the quality of the final image...not the kit which so many seem to be hung up on these days?


Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
25 February 2014 11:09
RedChecker
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RedChecker
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Buckinghamshire
Stoke Mandeville

Quote from OldMaster
Given what some choose to charge the money might be better spent on a ten week college course.



You are joking surely?
When you are dead, you do not know that you are dead. All of your pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when you are stupid.


Les Higgins is off-lineSilver Member
25 February 2014 11:47
lester2705
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lester2705
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Tyne and Wear


Better still, why not take a look at creative live (www.creativelive.com)? They do a lot of varied courses on there which you can learn a lot from. They're not astronomical in price either and some of the courses are given by some of the top people in their field. Just recently for example, Sue Bryce, Frank Doorhoff, Lara Jade to name but a few.


Imagefield is off-line
26 February 2014 04:29
Imagefield
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Imagefield
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Greater Manchester
Manchester

As you are NW based how about -

Redeye.org.uk

or

whitworthadultprogramme.wordpress.com/alternative-camera-club/


RGBphoto is off-lineSilver Member
26 February 2014 04:53
magpie1
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Location
United Kingdom
Tyne and Wear
Newcastle

Photography workshops can be a good investment for someone interested in a specific even specialised subject. A lot of courses are intended to make running them as much return as possible. One wonders how some 'big names' find time to do high priced courses, if they are so busy being photographers?
Most basics and more can be learned through books, online and PRACTICE.
Many people on workshops are not actually there to learn, they are looking for 'formulas' and there are a few out there who will reveal the 'secrets' - for a price, there are no secrets.



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