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Scottish referendum.

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21 February 2014 13:13
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Wow! presumably that will influence the result approximately as much as this thread.



You don't seem to understand the impact a leading tory going against the leadership can have in Scotland.      This could be a blip or it could be the start of the tories in Scotland seeing an opportunity to distance themselves from the 2.5 thatcherist parties in westminster once and for all and reclaim their historic place in scottish politics.



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21 February 2014 13:29
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You don't seem to understand the impact a leading tory going against the leadership can have in Scotland.      This could be a blip or it could be the start of the tories in Scotland seeing an opportunity to distance themselves from the 2.5 thatcherist parties in westminster once and for all and reclaim their historic place in scottish politics.





The one good thing is that at least there would be an opposition that is right leaning for a change, to add a bit of balance to Scottish politics - it won't affect the Tories of Westminster either way but it will have a serious effect on Labour and the left in Westminster if Scotland votes YES.
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21 February 2014 13:34
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The one good thing is that at least there would be an opposition that is right leaning for a change, to add a bit of balance to Scottish politics - it won't affect the Tories of Westminster either way but it will have a serious effect on Labour and the left in Westminster if Scotland votes YES.



Agreed, it would be welcome.



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21 February 2014 14:02
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You don't seem to understand the impact a leading tory going against the leadership can have in Scotland.      This could be a blip or it could be the start of the tories in Scotland seeing an opportunity to distance themselves from the 2.5 thatcherist parties in westminster once and for all and reclaim their historic place in scottish politics.






Very funny .... and pigs might fly.
Did you not notice that SNP got elected not because voters craved independence but because they wanted someone with policies to the left of the Labour party....
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21 February 2014 14:08
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The one good thing is that at least there would be an opposition that is right leaning for a change, to add a bit of balance to Scottish politics - it won't affect the Tories of Westminster either way but it will have a serious effect on Labour and the left in Westminster if Scotland votes YES.



If it won't affect the Tories at Westminster why are they so keen to keep the union. (I'm assuming that Cameron and Osbourne are just inept in their interventions rather than Machiavellian )
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21 February 2014 14:09
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Very funny .... and pigs might fly. Did you not notice that SNP got elected not because voters craved independence but because they wanted someone with policies to the left of the Labour party....



The tories in Scotland were pretty strong and got plenty of votes before Thatcher.   Conservatism without an attchment to the Westminster party could resurge in an independent Scotland.  


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21 February 2014 14:11
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If it won't affect the Tories at Westminster why are they so keen to keep the union. (I'm assuming that Cameron and Osbourne are just inept in their interventions rather than Machiavellian )



The short answer to that is despite the tiresome accusations of sponging Scotland actually contributes a great deal to the treasury, even without the oil money.



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21 February 2014 16:56
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You don't seem to understand the impact a leading tory going against the leadership can have in Scotland.      This could be a blip or it could be the start of the tories in Scotland seeing an opportunity to distance themselves from the 2.5 thatcherist parties in westminster once and for all and reclaim their historic place in scottish politics.




It would be progressive to see an non 'High-Tory' , non Thatcherite brand of Conservatism contributing to politics once more.

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21 February 2014 16:56
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It would be progressive to see an non 'High-Tory' , non Thatcherite, non religious brand of Conservatism contributing to politics once more.




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24 February 2014 07:43
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I don't think England will have to do anything but the Scots will have a lot of adjusting to do.
It only happens all the time.



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