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Is there actually any photographers out there who want to shoot models with clothes on?!

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Charlotte Barker is off-line
12 February 2014 17:26
CharleyBarker
Model

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United Kingdom
Derbyshire
Glossop

I don't mind models who do glamour/nude shoots etc, but I prefer just to do fashion and shoots not showing everything that I have got, but photographers don't seem to want that now a days.. Is it just me who's noticing this? I've put a post out that I'm a model looking for paid work, but the fact I don't do nude, I am getting no where! is it not about facial looks any more?


Chrissie Red is off-line
12 February 2014 17:30
Chrissie_Red
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Chrissie_Red
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United Kingdom
Tayside
Perthshire

On the internet scene there isn't much call for fashion only models so what little paid work there is generally goes to established models who have a strong fashion portfolio already.


RGBphoto is off-lineSilver Member
12 February 2014 17:33
magpie1
Photographer

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United Kingdom
Tyne and Wear
Newcastle

I always keep my clothes on.


12 February 2014 17:37
Socialdisaster
Photographer


I think you have to be something really really special to pull off paid work / fully clothed in this scene.

Note that's not a judgement on you, I haven't even looked at your profile.
Modesty is just arrogance in stealth mode


Paul Jones is off-line
12 February 2014 17:39
Paul_Jones
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Paul_Jones
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Lancashire
Wigan

Quote from CharleyBarker
I've put a post out that I'm a model looking for paid work, but the fact I don't do nude, I am getting no where! 



I'm just throwing this out as a suggestion, but the line in your profile that reads  "I like having my own say in what I shoot and not always getting told what is going to happen by the photographer."  might possibly deter or raise a question mark with some photographers.

Best regards
Paul
www.PaulJones.org


TarMoo is off-line
12 February 2014 17:44
tarmoo
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tarmoo
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United Kingdom
Kent
Chatham

Most models who shoot fashion don't have a lot of fashion items to shoot. Purchasing or hiring fashion items can be expensive, as is hiring a stylist. Some fashion models are good at makeup, but many are not so you may need a MUA and hair sylist as well.

This is Dawa Ma on a Fashion Shoot at Lordship Park in London. There were 4 models + MUA + Stylist (Lisa Fifer). If you want to shoot fashion, then this can be quite expensive if you hire all the creative team. it is much cheaper to shoot art nude.

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12 February 2014 18:09
immortaleye
Studio


Yes is the simple answer. Just go into any WH Smiths and look at the magazine rack, I think you will find nude models in a distinct minority! On sites like this though clearly the preference is nude and even in the serious fashion world a model has no real chance if they are prescious about never having anything on show.

Assuming you have not already I would sit down and decide just where your redlines are then work out how you can create your own USP within what you are comfortable with. If you are intending to push yourself as a contemporary fashion model then you need to have the outfits that will wow, even if begged and borrowed from designers. Plus of course being practised in the poses that work. If lingerie/swimwear then it has to be top notch stuff not gear you wear day in day out or can be bought cheap in Primark.

There is scope on the fetish side too of course. Latex PVC leather. Very few photographers doing it for a bit of fun are going to spend out on this gear but may hire a model they know can bring something unique to a shoot.

I know plenty of models who make a full time job of it. Some work to nude others only lingerie or implied topless. The reason for them making a living from it has less to do with what they are happy to take off and a lot more to do with them treating it as a serious business and putting in the effort that requires. As with any business there is no magic bullet. No 'trick' that suddenly brings the cash flooding in. It is a case of doing it. Getting it wrong, learning where your screwed up then doingi it a little better. If you are smarter than average then you will watch and learn from otheres mistakes and be prepared to listen and learn from those making it work.
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Gerry is off-line
12 February 2014 18:13
Gerry99111
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Gerry99111
Location
United Kingdom
Surrey
Guildford

When I want to shoot clothed, it will either be with a specialist fashion and or beauty model or as part of a art nude shoot or because I am working with a specialist sports model.

I don't really have any need to book someone for simple clothed work as a one off shoot if they don't meet the criteria I mentioned above on a TF let alone paid basis.
If you have to ask why I do it, you will never understand the reason why


Street Model is off-line
12 February 2014 19:07
StreetModel
Photographer
StreetModel
Location
United Kingdom
Essex
Upminster / All UK

I think part of the issue is the type of people that use places like this for their models as opposed to big agencies etc. In WH Smiths, I agree, there are very few models in the nude, but then again, there are very few photographers working for those magazines looking for their models on here.

Most photographers here are hobbyist, semi pro, guys with cameras, a few ideas and maybe a few quid to spend. They are going to want to get the most for their money, and if they want to shoot a person in clothes, they probably ask the wife/kids etc.

I am sure there are many professionals on here too, but do they use here to source all their models? I doubt it somehow...
It could be Lupus.... It is NEVER Lupus!!


12 February 2014 19:32
PaulManuell
Photographer


In answer to the question that's the title of your thread - Yes, me. However, even though I've not looked at your profile yet, I have to agree with Paul Jones, ref. his quote from your profile. To me it comes across slightly aggressive or over assertive. I'd like to think that, as long as I was working within the model's levels, I'd have a major say in how I'd like to shoot her if I was paying her. Update: Ok, I've just had a look at your profile and the line Paul Jones quoted from it is no longer there, so I'm assuming you took his comment onboard.



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