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Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
18 December 2013 15:46
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Quote from Blacklion
If she's looking for a top quality photographer to help her put a portfolio together, why doesn't she approach one instead of insulting everyone that applied to her casting!



Jesus wept!  How has she insulted anyone?

And besides, perhaps she's not aware of who the top photographers are.
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18 December 2013 16:04
silverk
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Quote from Kiboko
Whether I'd be prepared to accept a critique from a model is another matter, if it were to merley assert it wasn't good enough, that would give me little to go on as to how to improve.



If a model criticised my work I would be happy to hear from them, in fact if anybody took issue with my work I would listen. As the saying goes advice can be given but it doesnt have to be taken!


David Heels is off-line
18 December 2013 16:06
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Quote from Gerry99111
Why? She was looking for something specific and it sounds like all and sundry have chanced their arm. Why sould she waste further time on them or risk another 50 unsuitable applicants



Simple good manners.

I would have though it's also good business practice. Although she may not rate any of these fifty photographers now, there is a chance that some of them will improve in time, or be offering paid work in the future, that she quite fancies.


Dave




Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
18 December 2013 16:09
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Gerry is off-line
18 December 2013 16:17
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Quote from Crippen
Simple good manners.

I would have though it's also good business practice. Although she may not rate any of these fifty photographers now, there is a chance that some of them will improve in time, or be offering paid work in the future, that she quite fancies.


Dave





People here have taken offense and called her insulting because she just said the ones that applied were not to the required standard. People here are prepared to argue why she owes her a reply.

These are exactly the reasons why she is wise to not reply
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Paul Jones is off-line
18 December 2013 16:28
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Quote from Kiboko
Apparently it's the second casting call the model's posted in a couple of days, over 50 replies received and NONE of the applicants was good enough! 



Good for her in being choosy.

Whenever a new model asks about TFP there's usually lots of photographers advising them to be "selective in who they work with".  It seems this young lady is just following that advice.  I cannot see why some people are taking umbrage over it.


Quote from Kiboko
I for one welcome critiques from someone qualified by way of known stature in the photographic industry...

Whether I'd be prepared to accept a critique from a model is another matter...   



I honestly don't think that one needs photographic distinctions or letters after ones name to know whether an image grabs you or not.

If one is touting for TFP shoots from models**, then it makes sense to listen to what they have to say.

(** Not necessarily aimed at Kiboko)


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Paul
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18 December 2013 16:46
Socialdisaster
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Quote from Paul_Jones
I cannot see why some people are taking umbrage over it.





Perhaps it's just the style. Could you imagine a photographer posting a cc that said "I had 50 models reply to this previously, but none were any good, so I'm here again"?

They'd be hung drawn and quartered by models, white knights and slobbering do gooders.

Always amusing when a pretty young woman is allowed to get away with things.

Says a lot.

A very lot.
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Gerry is off-line
18 December 2013 17:19
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Quote from Socialdisaster
Perhaps it's just the style. Could you imagine a photographer posting a cc that said "I had 50 models reply to this previously, but none were any good, so I'm here again"? They'd be hung drawn and quartered by models, white knights and slobbering do gooders. Always amusing when a pretty young woman is allowed to get away with things. Says a lot. A very lot.



They would be wrong as well then.

Its a casting and its the caster's business how they choose to conduct themselves and there is the report button if its offensive. How anyone normal can find anything offensive in saying none of the previous applicants was good enough is beyond me. Drama Queen or what?
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Amber West is off-line
18 December 2013 17:22
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I'm confused - how do you know 50 photographers applied? Maybe it was a figure of speech? A hyperbole?
Is she asking for something very specific? Well curious now!


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18 December 2013 18:01
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Okay, a kind person just sent me the casting in question - so hey, it's not the most tactfully worded casting, but I've seen worse. And I still think 50 is likely a gross exaggeration. I personally no longer do castings in order to get TFCD, but in the past I have and you DO get some real chancers.



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