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Jay R Tog is off-line
20 November 2013 22:24
Josh_Woodcock_Photography
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Josh_Woodcock_Photography
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United Kingdom
London
london/kent

Quote from JadedRed
Why? It should only bother you if you feel you are somehow entitled to have things any other way. 






i guess i dont really mean it bothers me, people are free to do as they wish afterall

more i think its silly to blanket rule something out like that and was curious as to others opinions
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21 November 2013 03:36
Lisaliz
Model


I now sort of see what the OP is getting at.
In theory, a good art nude model could have a sufficient portfolio and not really need another nude image. However, if one of the top art nude photographers approached her for a tf shoot, she might jump at the chance and a blanket no nude tf rule would have precluded that exciting opportunity.
However, in reality, she just doesn't want to work nude for tf. Because most photographers are not going to offer her anything she wants, and she will undoubtedly get a lot of annoying requests if she does leave the door open for tf nudes. Some photographers can be a right pain if they get turned down and maybe she's had some of that and doesn't want any more?


21 November 2013 07:08
JadedRed
Model


Quote from Josh_Woodcock_Photography
i guess i dont really mean it bothers me, people are free to do as they wish afterall more i think its silly to blanket rule something out like that and was curious as to others opinions



I straight out 100% don't do hardcore pornography. Someone else might think that is silly and I shouldn't blanket rule it out when there might be a 1 in a million chance of some amazing opportunity, but that person simply lacks the empathy to understand that other people might not be interested in doing hardcore pornography or have aims in life that wouldn't be aided by doing hardcore pornography. 

Or it could just be that I'm a model and therefore incapable of knowing what I want and what is good for my aims and need a stranger to point out I'm misunderstanding my own situation.


Neil Anderson is off-line
21 November 2013 07:55
stolenfaces
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stolenfaces
Location
United Kingdom
London
West London

Quote from Josh_Woodcock_Photography


i guess i dont really mean it bothers me, people are free to do as they wish afterall

more i think its silly to blanket rule something out like that and was curious as to others opinions



What makes you think they are blanket ruling it out. They are saying don't cold call me as I'm not interested in some chancer trying to get nude pics for free.
That doesn't mean that they wouldn't work with someone of their choice or even be flexible if a tfp shoot is arranged at a clothed level and they like the photographer's work/attitude.

Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so high and wild he'll never need to deal another...


EdT is off-line
23 November 2013 04:54
EdT
Photographer
EdT
Location
United Kingdom
Cambridgeshire


Quote from Lisaliz
I now sort of see what the OP is getting at.
In theory, a good art nude model could have a sufficient portfolio and not really need another nude image. However, if one of the top art nude photographers approached her for a tf shoot, she might jump at the chance and a blanket no nude tf rule would have precluded that exciting opportunity.
However, in reality, she just doesn't want to work nude for tf. Because most photographers are not going to offer her anything she wants, and she will undoubtedly get a lot of annoying requests if she does leave the door open for tf nudes. Some photographers can be a right pain if they get turned down and maybe she's had some of that and doesn't want any more?



Pretty much sums it up. It puts off the chancers who just want her to get her kit off, but leaves her with the option of saying yes if a top notch photographer contacts her.


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23 November 2013 07:35
jessicard
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Vale of Glamorgan
Cardiff

Most models aren't in it for the "art" therefore won't get naked for free. Can't really say I blame them.

However if a photographer was fantastic and could offer me amazing shots then I'd definitely consider it. Would have to be an exceptional photographer tho.
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TarMoo is off-line
23 November 2013 08:02
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
Location
United Kingdom
Kent
Chatham

Most of the better art nude models get some edits from about 90% of paid shoots. The quality of these photos is often way better than the vast majority of those wanting to do TF with the model.
Q: How to make a small fortune from photography? A: Start with a large fortune.


Tempus Fugit is off-lineSilver Member
23 November 2013 10:07
pinkbuildingphotography
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pinkbuildingphotography
Location
United Kingdom
Tayside


Josh, I think that you are over thinking it.
It is like anything else. A business decision.

Purestorm allows people a limited access for free. To allow more access then they charge more. The more payment the higher the level of access.

Models may feel that they are offering more of a service if they shoot nudes TF and believe that it is correct to charge.

I personally think that is reasonable.

An example is when I have access to a car I am happy to drive friends to and from local towns such as St Andrews about 12 miles away, Perth 23 miles away. However if they are wanting me to drive them to the Airport In Glasgow then I would have to ask for petrol money.

Models of course may not agree with me. However that is how I see it.
Riding on the Gotterdammerung. Down and down she goes. Where she stops no one knows.


Tempus Fugit is off-lineSilver Member
23 November 2013 10:32
pinkbuildingphotography
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pinkbuildingphotography
Location
United Kingdom
Tayside


I think an analogy would be a photographer saying I will not work with a model who has implants.

A blanket rule that may inhibit their photographer, however something that I have decided.

I happen to have made the above decision myself.

Is it limiting? Possibly.

However that is my choice.

Would a model who has implants be upset at this? Nope. If my port were far better possibly. However we all make our choices and have to live with them.

I may change this later.

However I may not.

This does not say anything about the models skill or professionalism.
Riding on the Gotterdammerung. Down and down she goes. Where she stops no one knows.


Gerry is off-line
23 November 2013 16:09
Gerry99111
Photographer
Gerry99111
Location
United Kingdom
Surrey
Guildford

I know one who has that statement. She doesn't need any more nude or lingerie images - it doesn't matter who offers to shoot her TF, she still doesn't need or want any more nude or lingerie images. She gets all the paid nude and lingerie bookings she needs and does not need to promote herself. She doesn't want to waste her time answering anyone no matter how good they are asking her for TFP nude and lingerie. She shoots that for cash only and is able to get quality bookings and not have to compromise.

She may [and I say just may] consider a TFP fashion simply because that may interest her. She doesn't need the images though to get her more bookings.

It makes perfect sense to me why she has taken this approach otherwise she will be swamped by people she has no need to converse with.
If you have to ask why I do it, you will never understand the reason why



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