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What does 'Erotic Photography' mean to you?

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Tempus Fugit is off-lineSilver Member
26 October 2013 18:17
pinkbuildingphotography
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My personal definition is something which is purposely intensely sexual, eliciting a positive emotional and sexual response from the viewer, whilst not making the subject look cheap or degraded.

Whilst this will not be every ones view, it is the one that I use.

It may be pornographic by nature, however, not necessarily so. Also just because something is pornographic it is not erotic.

One of the most erotic pictures I have ever seen is purely a picture of a models face.

Perhaps elusive is also a term that can be used.

Many people think that they are shooting erotica, however they are shooting crass rubbish, which is what happened when I shot nudes. This is also one of the reasons that I do not shoot nudes, I am rarely happy with the results.

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Andy_B is off-lineSilver Member
26 October 2013 19:49
Andy_B
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London
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> What does 'Erotic Photography' mean to you?

I'd say it's provocative photography which may or may not be sexually explicit but tends to the artistic rather than the pornographic.


In a Purestorm context, I think it's more a phrase (ab)used by models who want to entice adult photographers to shoot out-of focus black and white nudes of them. Hire the model and you place yourself in a 'between-levels' gray area that risks causing upset to one or both parties. Personally, any casting call that mentions this on Purestorm I run a mile from.


27 October 2013 00:09
johnlp
Photographer


Quote from Andy_B
> What does 'Erotic Photography' mean to you?



 Hire the model and you place yourself in a 'between-levels' gray area that risks causing upset to one or both parties.




Yes.  I worked with a model on a second ocassion, and she had on her profile "erotic", and it was agreed that some of the nude work would be of an "erotic" nature.  When it came to it she didn't have a clue.  She also over-charged me for her travel expenses, so for both reasons further requests to work with me were turned down.




27 October 2013 03:40
Lisaliz
Model


From the model's point of view, the first thing we need to know is the level required. In very simple terms.

Once that had been agreed, then both parties can work towards realising the photographer's vision. (Assuming it's a paid shoot.) As johnlp says, this work may wellonly happen during the shoot.


Barry Usher is off-lineGold Member
27 October 2013 04:42
dreambhug
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If a photograph is in colour, on the web and gives a chap an erection, it's pornographic.
It the photograph is in B%W and does not have the above effect then it is erotic.
I think it also depends on the intent, I recently watched, on TV, 'Date a Porn Star' it was neither pornographic or erotic but rather depressing.


27 October 2013 04:50
johnlp
Photographer


Ok, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. I've got three shoots coming up in the next couple of weeks, and I'll see if I can get a example of my idea of "erotic", and post it here. It will be in full, glorious colour.


Barry Usher is off-lineGold Member
27 October 2013 05:20
dreambhug
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Don't forget, there will be elderly chaps like me looking at this pic.


Howard Mansfield is off-line
27 October 2013 08:35
HMansfield
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Nottinghamshire


Quote from dreambhug
If a photograph is in colour, on the web and gives a chap an erection, it's pornographic.
It the photograph is in B%W and does not have the above effect then it is erotic.


I'm not sure if you're joking or not.
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Steve Guy is off-line
27 October 2013 19:45
Sdeve
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Derbyshire
Derby

More seriously, this cannot really be defined, IMO, other than the quality of composition. In a former life I worked on a Vice Squad, and a considerable amount of time was spent examining and categorizing porn. One thing soon became evident and that was the amount of sheer rubbish out there. What was surprising was the relatively few occasions when a real gem was discovered, absolutely explicit as can be, but having an incredibly erotic quality, as opposed to assorted lumps of meat joining together for money.

To a large extent it also depends upon a person's moral values for lack of a better word. To some, a glimpse of cleavage is pornographic, and an image that most here might class as mildly erotic would be the route to eternal damnation. Personally, I think one of the biggest challenges in photography is to produce a pornographic image that doesn't look cheap and nasty. A sort of explicit erotica if you will. Something I am not confident I could ever achieve so I have yet to try. And there are certainly as many rubbish 'erotic' images out there as there are pornographic ones. And it's damn all to do with light and shade which, I have repeatedly pointed out, falls with equal indifference upon the fat and ugly as it does on the slim and beautiful. I merely try and photograph the things I like in the usually vain hope I don't make a pigs ear of it. (And don't be dirty!)



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