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EdT is off-line
06 August 2013 02:33
EdT
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EdT
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Quote from SMILESPHOTO

My personal hope is that as a result of all this there are a couple of positive outcomes: firstly, more models are now aware of the situation and are less likely to put themselves in a vulnerable situation or secondly (even better) is that the guy is made aware of these posts and thinks "Sh*t, they're on to me - let's quit whilst I still can". Unfortunately in the real world neither will probably happen




His modus operandi seems to be to prey on inexperienced models so, unfortunately, there is always a new supply arriving who will never have read threads like this,

The fact that he continues in spite of having served time doesn't fill me with the hope that he'll change his ways, so I think that your last sentiment will be the most likely outcome. Truly depressing.


07 August 2013 04:28
richardw
Photographer


How about the police looking at the blogs etc and being tipped off.
Surely there is enough evidence!
He should be behind bars!


Howard Mansfield is off-line
07 August 2013 05:01
HMansfield
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HMansfield
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Nottinghamshire


A blog by itself isn't evidence. Typing "such and such is a nonce" and pressing Post happens all over the internet daily.
Everyone knows photographers make up the hottest proportions of Britains single men. - Kater


Peter Roach is off-lineGold Member
08 August 2013 19:24
flashysnapper
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flashysnapper
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Staffordshire
burton on trent



bump


Durham Photographics is off-lineSilver Member
08 August 2013 23:53
Sarge
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Sarge
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County Durham


Quote from richardw
How about the police looking at the blogs etc and being tipped off.
Surely there is enough evidence!
He should be behind bars!



Evidence is something that needs to stand up in court.
A few messages on a forum/blog is not enough.
Yes, written evidence can still bare weight, but it needs people, statements, complaints, someone who will stand up and tell the police and a court what they went through.
Without that its just hot air.


09 August 2013 22:13
laylarc
Model


Just wanted to say - I am so impressed with how models are talking to each other, checking references & even posting personal experiences publically. That is how I heard about this person & his antics. I have shared the warnings with other models.

I'm also impressed with how *some* photographers are completely supportive of this network, which helps us avoid major and minor sexual predators. And a little disturbed at those that freak out & moan about it, like we're a bunch of evil witches cooking up stories for our own amusement.

Taking responsibility for own & others safety & reputation is a good thing, and it's long overdue. This guy is an extreme example, and I am glad that it is being discussed in a relatively public way.


Iain Thomson is off-linePlatinum Member
12 August 2013 11:32
IainT
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IainT
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Bedfordshire


Just a little bump....
I tend to be a modest man, but then I do have a lot to be modest about.


15 August 2013 05:20
paulbatterbury
Photographer



I have just spent the last day or so play message tennis with a member on purestorm. This refers to my request on a thread about creating a list of websites, which model could approach work for http://www.purestorm.com/forum/readThread.aspx?id=265607

Oddly they where very vague, and selective about who they worked for, but when I check ed their profile, there where work links to the person that is the main topic in this thread.

I like the fact I get called strange, and then I blown a kiss. I find adding kisses at the end of an email very unprofessional and reading what this person has said, if I was a model, and if all i had on information was 'me' then alarm bells would ring.



-----Original Message-----
From: --------------------
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: your spreadsheet

LOL you are a bit strange!!

All the best x



-----Original Message-----
From: paulbatterbury
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: your spreadsheet

Well I have asked for websites, so I can not see how you can misunderstand that, you have contact me with claiming that you work for sites, yet you are very secretive on which sites these are.

If you are freelance shooting for ADP or Twistys then there is no need to contact me as these sites are already added.

It is the sites we are adding, not the photographers.






-----Original Message-----
From: ----------------
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: your spreadsheet

I really dont know what you are asking for!!!? I know many photographers like myself who freelance for sites such as Twistys, APD etc. These companies use many togs to shoot for them - there is not ONE place that the girls are shot from... - are you asking for a list of sites that I shoot for??





-----Original Message-----
From: paulbatterbury
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: your spreadsheet


I am Sorry, without the sites I can't add you, it’s not reputable photographers, I talking about website to which many like ADP nudes, Twistys and OT have very reputable photographs, clean areas to work in and payment systems.




-----Original Message-----
From: ----------------------
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: your spreadsheet

I shoot for various sites, ranging in age and levels. I cover 18 - 65 year old models, from topless only, right up to adult levels.

I thought you were simply devising a module to link up models with reputable photographers.

These sites are "me"

www.--------------.com
www.--------------.com



-----Original Message-----
From: paulbatterbury
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: your spreadsheet


which websites do you have, and levels, as models will ask about the theme and level of a website.


-----Original Message-----
From: -------------------
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:39 PM
Subject: your spreadsheet

Hi Paul

Can I be listed? Female photographer, ex model, own my own studio hire/model agency business, freelance for several websites, always looking for new models....lots of fantastic references on my purestorm :-)

www.---------.com
www.---------.com

Based in -------- , UK.
Kind Regards Paul http://www.paul-batterbury.com


RubyRosetta is off-line
17 August 2013 08:27
RubyRosetta
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RubyRosetta
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Derbyshire


 As much as I would love to see this piece of RubyRosetta is a naughty person locked up, I can totally appreciate why many girls are scared of going to the police.

Aside from the fear of not being believed, the process of reporting sexual abuse can be frightening and embarrassing. 

You are expected to use graphic language to describe the event(s). It really isn't enough to just say 'he touched me' or 'he raped me'. The laws surrounding sexual crimes are almost based on a points system. One act might be classed as 'indecent assault', another as 'gross indencency' etc. The specific sex act might not necessarily reflect the level of trauma the victim has suffered, but that isn't really relevant in the interview. They essnetially will want to know things like 'did he insert his fingers inside your vagina', 'what did you do to his penis' etc. 

Having to use this 'proper' terminology, combined with having to remember as much information as possible, with the added possibility of friends and family finding out... it isn't an easy process. That's not to say that whoever interviews you won't be sympathetic... but they've still got to ask very specific questions. In some cases, the worst stuff possibly won't be reported by the victim, as they will feel so disgusted and embarrassed that they will struggle to utter the words.

Sex crimes are very very different to other crimes in terms of the specific kind of trauma suffered by the victim but I'm not sure this is necessarily taken into account in a police interview. 


18 August 2013 04:04
screaming_images
Photographer


and you wonder why some people scorn glamour photographers when there are sicko's like this, it gives us all a bad name and he should be behind bars, perhaps a few inmates wouldn't mind trying what he does on him.
sorry a bit eye for eye but my veiws
"For Gods sake Woman put your clothes on" the nightmares keep getting worse



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