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New DSLR - Advice Needed

Simon Young is off-lineSilver Member
20 June 2013 11:21
Allinthemind
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Gloucestershire


Glass and body........... Depending on what you're after. A great lens on a rubbish body isn't necessarily as good as a good lens on a great body etc,, Understand what you want in terms of picture qualities and output sizes and work backwards... Here is a useful resource listing lens/body combinations in terms of quality as measured across a few different criteria..

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Ratings

Si
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Laurence Power is off-line
20 June 2013 13:19
LaurenceJPower
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Surrey
Esher

Personally i'm a Nikon user and have just purchased a second D3 and sold a D2x. But my requirements are fairly unique.
1) I live close to Nikon therefore I can get work done easliy and quickly
2) I occasionally hire lenses
3) I have a fair sized legacy Nikon kit

Having got that out of the way, and on the back of peopel recommending Sigma lenses to use on Canon bodies, haw about looking at a Sigma body. Extremely high resolution lenses from Sigma. Two disadvantages, which you may feel are irrelevant to you: -
1) Slow - large files take a while to write to cards
2) Only Sigma software is suitable for opening raw files - this software is slow, but take a look at Luminous Landscape site

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•Resolution is remarkable.... Surpasses (by a small but noticable margin) the Sony A900 and A55 on-screen and at typical print sizes...
•Not quite in Leica M9 territory though...could be the lenses as much as anything else
•The Pentax 645D is in another league. The SD1 is no competitor to even the lower end of the current medium format market
•What impresses most about the SD1 is micro-detail... clearly a result of not having at AA filter, as much as anything else
•This may be what the so-called 3D effect that people talk about is caused by. There is detail within detail
Laurence J. Power


Graham is off-lineSilver Member
21 June 2013 05:49
grahamsphotography
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Quote from PaulManuell
Well they did have some pretty good tunes, I won't deny that. Messages was my favourite.



I must admit when Scubie showed me his, (OMD) I was very impressed and he has got some great shots with it.








Graham is off-lineSilver Member
21 June 2013 05:54
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Quote from Allinthemind
Glass and body........... Depending on what you're after. A great lens on a rubbish body isn't necessarily as good as a good lens on a great body etc,, Understand what you want in terms of picture qualities and output sizes and work backwards... Here is a useful resource listing lens/body combinations in terms of quality as measured across a few different criteria.. http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Camera-Lens-Ratings Si



For a newbie all you need is an accurate shutter, if everything else is manual it`s great for making you learn properly.





Neil Anderson is off-line
21 June 2013 06:23
stolenfaces
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Quote from grahamsphotography
For a newbie all you need is an accurate shutter, if everything else is manual it`s great for making you learn properly.




Whilst I know some of us Nikon Users may not count Canon's as real cameras... I think if the OP has previously owned two recent canon models he probably isn't really a newbie.

Presumably the point of his post is that he is looking to choose a long term commitment to a brand (as hopefully all his kit won't be stolen again). In doing so he is probably less interested in the erudite distinctions between marque lenses and more with a strategy which will leave him a lifetime of affordable upgrades from a reasonable starting place.

With his current budget I would think a full frame camera may be difficult (although a lowish mileage D700 is certainly worth consideration, the low-light focusing (or lack of) on the 5DMk2 makes it a more specialist buy).
If you do have the cash the D600 looks an excellent buy, but the 6D seems to have some annoyingly 'budget' features.

I would certainly think in terms of eventually moving to full-frame, so only buy full-frame lenses even if you decide to get a crop frame body for now.






Like any dealer he was watching for the card that is so high and wild he'll never need to deal another...


21 June 2013 14:02
VinceM
Photographer


Thanks stolenfaces. Some sound advice there...

And Lpower thanks for showing getting me all excited about gear that I can't afford..!

I'm looking at ticking with anon for the near future. Probably the 7D but with full frame lenses.

Think this is a safe option that would have some familiarity. And probably team initially with the sigma 50mm 1.4 and another lens tbc.

Thanks again to everyone for their advice, including those that PM'd me. I wasn't expecting so much quality advice and passion to the debate.

I also think this thread can be closed now - before the nikon vs canon vs other debate takes over completely...

Handbags at dawn and all that.

Cheers

Vince


John Duder is off-lineSilver Member
21 June 2013 14:05
JohnDuder
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West Midlands
Walsall

I apologise if not reading 4 pages means I'm repeating what someone else has said.

I agree with the comment that full frame is good: especially if you want to use depth of field effects. Nothing easily available beats an 85mm f/1.4 wide open.

As a Sony user, I'd say the 900 and 850 would make excellent secondhand buys. Not fancy, just solid performance. Newer cameras handle high ISO more smoothly, but I've seen nothing to make me think I should change brands.

But whatever you buy, consider secondhand: there are bargains to be had, as some people scramble for the latest gear. Just check for signs of extensive wear, and (preferably) check on the number of shutter actuations. It's really easy to run a camera like a 900 (or a D3, or a 5D) up round the 100,000 exposures mark in two or three years. And that will be a serious part of its design life, even if there's a good deal more to go!

And whatever you get, enjoy it!


Laurence Power is off-line
21 June 2013 14:23
LaurenceJPower
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Surrey
Esher

Quote from VinceM
Thanks stolenfaces. Some sound advice there... And Lpower thanks for showing getting me all excited about gear that I can't afford..! I'm looking at ticking with anon for the near future. 
A
new body is £1800, but since I never buy new kit only s/h one can always look around
Laurence J. Power



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