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Casting Images

Missie is off-line
13 January 2013 18:01
Missie0290
Model
Missie0290
Location
United Kingdom
Merseyside
Newton-le-Willows

I am aware that not all photographers require casting images (Else i wouldn't get any work seeing as i don't actually have any).

I do think though, Not only for those who would like to see them, Perhaps if more had them, It would discourage the horrible camera phone and mirror images and night out photos - In fact, I have wondered in the past why purestorm doesn't make it a requirement for setting up a portfolio - A clear, digital headshot and full length shot against a plain background. I don't think it's an unreasonable requirement seeing as photographers are required to have a certain standard of images, And is 5 minutes snapping a few pics really much to ask when chances are they aren't paying for the service (At least at first)?
"[Toni] has a short fuse when it comes to stupidity"


Jen Somerfield ♥ is off-lineGold Member
13 January 2013 18:02
JenSomerfield
Model
JenSomerfield
Location
United Kingdom
Bristol
Bristol

Quote from mgphotomedia
If you're shooting for the photographer's personal projects them most will be happy to go with whatever they see in your port - that's what inspires them to book you in the first place. With clients it's different, especially for certain work genres - casting images are a mandatory requirement.



Why should that mean a casting image has to be ON your profile? Surely they can be emailed? That is what I am responding to. Jenny does not need to put them on her portfolio.

Non-glamour non-adult shoots do not require casting shots to be on your profile, and only rarely to be emailed.


Jen Somerfield ♥ is off-lineGold Member
13 January 2013 18:04
JenSomerfield
Model
JenSomerfield
Location
United Kingdom
Bristol
Bristol

Quote from Missie0290
I am aware that not all photographers require casting images (Else i wouldn't get any work seeing as i don't actually have any).

I do think though, Not only for those who would like to see them, Perhaps if more had them, It would discourage the horrible camera phone and mirror images and night out photos - In fact, I have wondered in the past why purestorm doesn't make it a requirement for setting up a portfolio - A clear, digital headshot and full length shot against a plain background. I don't think it's an unreasonable requirement seeing as photographers are required to have a certain standard of images, And is 5 minutes snapping a few pics really much to ask when chances are they aren't paying for the service (At least at first)?



I agree. It's not a requirement for new models to have ever modelled before, but I do think if they've not got a portfolio, clear shots taken on a webcam/cameraphone/phone/camera (which everyone has) should be necessary. Much better than photos of them drunk on a night out / with their dirty bathroom mirror


Missie is off-line
13 January 2013 18:07
Missie0290
Model
Missie0290
Location
United Kingdom
Merseyside
Newton-le-Willows

I've never really browsed the other sites members so i don't know what others are like for it, But i do feel it somewhat brings the site down aswell when there are umpteen duck face/orange tan/dirty mirror/drunken night out with a detached arm around the shoulder from cropping friend out pictures dotted around.

Which is a shame because there are some cracking models on here.
"[Toni] has a short fuse when it comes to stupidity"


fitnude is off-line
14 January 2013 02:33
actiongirl
Model

Location
United Kingdom
London


i think for casting images without editing i would let Auntie Flo take them for free.....just snapshots/polaroids are fine. headshots are the most difficult to do properly so i would be prepared to pay a pro or acting/casting agent to take a proper one as its a specialised art. I have done quite a few jobs where the photographer tells me an amusing tale that he/she met the model but until the model introduced him/herself...the model was walked straight past, cos not recognisable from photo!! That's far worse than someone looking old.haggard/rugged/quirky in their port cos there might be a client out there somewhere looking for the latter. Beautiful people of course look great in a bin liner without make up on and so and one could take their photo and they would still get the job over someone less suitable who had paid to have a set of pro photos done. So to sum up.......maybe best not to pay for photos until you at least know you can get pro work cos you have already built up a client base, then...speculate to accumulate...


Iain Thomson is off-linePlatinum Member
14 January 2013 03:59
IainT
Photographer
IainT
Location
United Kingdom
Bedfordshire


I think people also get confused with what suitable casting images are. Basically a casting image is any image which presents a true representation of the model. Many model portfolios on here are perfectly suitable for casting and nothing else is required.

For instance, Jen Somerfield's port is an excellent example. It is a true and accurate representation of what she looks like and a clear record of her figure. Any experienced photographer or picture editor would recognise this.

The problem port's are those of free members with insufficient images, those with heavily airbrushed images, no clear figure shots, no decent headshots or mainly old pics. Any port which is up to date and gives an accurate representation of the model is fine.

I personally dont use the old fashioned doc shots as described by Peter, most webmasters these days have never seen such a thing and would think you were having a laugh and most magazine editors have no appreciation of what a model looks like pre shoot, they want to see what she looks like at her natural best, without airbrushing, because thats what they are used to seeing when the CD of raw files lands on their desk.

Its hard to describe what makes an ideal casting image, but the main things are that the model has not been retouched, her figure can be clearly seen from various angles and they are recent. The better the model looks and the better quality the image, the better. For instance if I take my own casting images of any particular model, it will increase her chances of working with me sifgnificantly, because I know exactly what my clients look for.

Cameraphone pics and self taken pics are useable and are better than most free ports and any airbrushed stuff, but are also far from ideal. The best is just to have a port of decent images showing what you look like, a lot of good models have this anyway.

I tend to be a modest man, but then I do have a lot to be modest about.


Claypaws is off-lineGold Member
16 January 2013 15:05
Claypaws
Photographer

Location
United Kingdom
North Yorkshire


I would also rather take my own casting shots of a model but it might not practicable to do so because of distance. Most portfolio shots are useless for casting because they have been edited or display the creativity of the photographer or makeup artist.

I cannot and will not book a model without casting shots, whether they have been taken by me or someone else.

Essentials are minimal makeup, no retouching. One thing I absolutely need is a closeup of the model's face, smiling. Standing nude from front back and sides are essential too but she does not need to look as though she has just been admitted to prison. I need to see what a model looks like naturally when she is relaxed.



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