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04 September 2012 20:23
DeeElegia
Model


6. Hot cross buns
What happens in Leeds, stays in Leeds.


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04 September 2012 23:16
frankpht
Photographer
frankpht
Location
United Kingdom
London


Quote from DeeElegia
6. Hot cross buns



Question If the six buns didn't have crosses.  They might be deemed to be naked so are they worth more or less than fully crossed hot buns. 


05 September 2012 00:02
laylarc
Model


There is logic to it. But models aren't car tyres or packets of Spam.  If you're thinking about it in that way, you're just getting it wrong.

It's not 'CRAZY'', and it's not some kind of outrage. Models do not charge by how much wrapping they have on, because they're not a bloody Easter egg.

There are less models prepared to model nude than there are girls that will keep their clothes on. And so photographers will pay more to work with them. This is completely logical. There is no moral obligation on the part of the model to make charitable concessions to people that want to photograph tits but don't want to pay. 

Just because a model's living expenses go down, that doesn't automatically mean she should drop her fees. That's got nothing to do with you.

Basically, you're moaning because tits are more expensive than no tits. This is something that most men get their heads around fairly early on in life, but if you've only just realised this, I suppose it can come as a bit of a shock.

 


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05 September 2012 00:05
Sarge
Photographer
Sarge
Location
United Kingdom
County Durham


Quote from laylarc
There is logic to it. But models aren't car tyres or packets of Spam.  If you're thinking about it in that way, you're just getting it wrong.

It's not 'CRAZY'', and it's not some kind of outrage. Models do not charge by how much wrapping they have on, because they're not a bloody Easter egg.

There are less models prepared to model nude than there are girls that will keep their clothes on. And so photographers will pay more to work with them. This is completely logical. There is no moral obligation on the part of the model to make charitable concessions to people that want to photograph tits but don't want to pay. 

Just because a model's living expenses go down, that doesn't automatically mean she should drop her fees. That's got nothing to do with you.

Basically, you're moaning because tits are more expensive than no tits. This is something that most men get their heads around fairly early on in life, but if you've only just realised this, I suppose it can come as a bit of a shock.

 



Good post, well said.


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05 September 2012 00:40
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
Location
United Kingdom
Kent
Chatham

Art nude is the cheaper than shooting glamour nude. Glamour is cheap than shooting fashion (if done properly). The cost of hiring a fashion model and MUA and sourcing the fashion items makes it the most expensive.

If your idea of "fashion" is shooting wanabee models in some casual clothes in a local park, then this can be very cheap, but lets not confuse this with "fashion".
Q: How to make a small fortune from photography? A: Start with a large fortune.


Hugh is onlineGold Member
05 September 2012 01:41
Hugh
Photographer
Hugh
Location
United Kingdom
Dyfed
Aberystwyth

Quote from tarmoo
If your idea of "fashion" is shooting wanabee models in some casual clothes in a local park, then this can be very cheap, but lets not confuse this with "fashion".



I've shot one model who makes about 5 times as much per hour when she shoots fashion as she does when she shoots art nude.

Shooting chubby chicks with clothes on isn't "shooting fashion".
It's not Fine Art just because it's in Black and White.


05 September 2012 01:53
Socialdisaster
Photographer


Quote from laylarc
It's not 'CRAZY'', and it's not some kind of outrage. Models do not charge by how much wrapping they have on, because they're not a bloody Easter egg.
 



Although I have to say that the idea of a model that, when done, turned into chocolate, is quite appealing.

Modesty is just arrogance in stealth mode


05 September 2012 03:10
Lisaliz
Model


Something else to ponder - some models may have raised prices for nude modelling because they are reluctant to work nude with many / particular photographers.


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05 September 2012 03:14
Bob
Photographer
Bob
Location
United Kingdom
Devon
Honiton

Quote from Lisaliz
some models may have raised prices for nude modelling because they are reluctant to work nude with many / particular photographers.


So does that reluctance vanish when more £10 notes are offered? If so, why?
Bob



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