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Amber West is off-lineSilver Member
22 July 2012 17:01
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Well, my opinion is that, as long as I am treated with politeness and respect, I don't really care what the photos are for.

Sure, some of the castings I see do sometimes make me cringe - but I just then choose not to apply for those jobs. No skin off my nose what folk choose to advertise for
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Kwglamour . is off-linePlatinum Member
22 July 2012 17:11
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Quote from Amber6
Well, my opinion is that as long as I am treated with politeness and respect, I don't really care what the photos are for.

Sure, some of the castings I see do sometimes make me cringe - but I just then choose not to apply for those jobs. No skin off my nose what folk choose to advertise for






Thanks Amber at least someone agree's with the point I am trying to get across in relation to certain castings that get put up.


Rob Keynsham is off-line
22 July 2012 17:52
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Although I pay my dues on this site I'm only an amateur. This means that I'm nor allowed an opinion on this thread but I'll give it anyway.

I never bother reading the photographers' casting calls. One of the perks of being an amateur is I'm not in competition with anybody else so I don't care what anybody else is shooting.

I have just quickly read all of the adult castings calls in the first 11 pages. Over half them seemed professional to me. The other half seemed honest and upfront about what they wished to shoot and all the photographers bar one had pictures that were of a reasonable standard - so not shooting with a compact camera and a popup flash. It wasn't quite the torrent of sleaze I was led to expect. It looked like the usual photographer offers work; model chooses whether ot not to apply; nobody else's business routine to me. I certainly didn't spot any signs that Purestorm had started to go downhill. Some people may not like where its at but thats another story ...

BTW 15% of the models that have left references for the OP have also sent me pm's offering to do adult shoots with me. I'm guessing that this allowable because no casting call was involved.


Aston Wilde is off-line
22 July 2012 18:05
ndcent007
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telford

kwglamours latest casting ....

"I am fully booked this coming week so from the 2nd of August I am looking for female adult models between the ages of 18-26 to work all levels, the higher the levels the better rate of pay. To work on indoor and outdoor locations as our summer weather is getting better. Looking for new faces as this will be for various publications."

A sense of humour is a must.
Inbox me for further details.

Ken


DOES THIS NOT suggest the type of shoot described in the forum post?, or is it slighty more proffesional to the as you say "ametuers" way of posting.


hmmmmm


Frank Sinnott is off-line
22 July 2012 18:49
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Quote from kwglamour
Thanks Amber at least someone agree's with the point I am trying to get across in relation to certain castings that get put up.




I don't think Amber has agreed with you at all.  I think you are using her to dig yourself out of the hole you have dug for yourself.  You mention nothing about politeness and respect.  You read between the lines and came up with some silly notions of what "certain" guys were actually looking for.  Best solution to this is don't, just let people get on with their lives.  Models have to earn their money and I doubt very much whether they are to worried about what so and so gets up to.after the shoot.   You just need to go off and act professionally. 


ScarlettLG is off-line
22 July 2012 19:04
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There's good and bad wherever you go. There's flakey models and there's lovely pro models. There's lovely respectable photographers and pervy twatty photographers. I take people how I find them not on what level they're at in photography or modelling. Just because someone doesn't do photography as a job it doesn't make them a pervert. If they're paying my rates and treating me with respect then I'm not treating them differently to the photographers that publish me. Why does there always have to be some form of playground argument on here? We are all supposed to be adults aren't we?
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Vinny V is off-lineGold Member
22 July 2012 20:17
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Quote from alice_g
There's good and bad wherever you go. There's flakey models and there's lovely pro models. There's lovely respectable photographers and pervy twatty photographers. I take people how I find them not on what level they're at in photography or modelling. Just because someone doesn't do photography as a job it doesn't make them a pervert. If they're paying my rates and treating me with respect then I'm not treating them differently to the photographers that publish me. Why does there always have to be some form of playground argument on here? We are all supposed to be adults aren't we?



+1
Beautifully said Alice


TarMoo is online
22 July 2012 22:58
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Kent
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Quote from ndcent007
kwglamours latest casting ....

"I am fully booked this coming week so from the 2nd of August I am looking for female adult models between the ages of 18-26 to work all levels, the higher the levels the better rate of pay. To work on indoor and outdoor locations as our summer weather is getting better. Looking for new faces as this will be for various publications."

A sense of humour is a must.
Inbox me for further details.

Ken


DOES THIS NOT suggest the type of shoot described in the forum post?, or is it slighty more proffesional to the as you say "ametuers" way of posting.


hmmmmm


This casting does appear to be aimed at models who don't advertise adult levels so that the OP can get some "fresh meat" for his adult publications. So it appears that the OP is advertising on a site where 95% of models don't do adult and 95% of photographers who book them for paid shoots are amateurs.

A lot of models are put off this site by dozens of unwanted requests for adult shoots by "professional" photographers looking to make a quick buck using "new faces" for their adult publications. I think most models on here would prefer these pro level pushers to stick to sites dedicated to adult levels.
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photo_phil is off-lineSilver Member
22 July 2012 23:08
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Quote from kwglamour
I'm not saying that amateurs can't use this site just that a majority of them use this site for different reasons and not just photography and I think we all know that.



Do you use it for photography?
Or just to find girls to take their clothes off for you to take photos of?


Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
22 July 2012 23:48
RedChecker
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Stoke Mandeville

Quote from kwglamour
In my opinion I have read alot of the most recent Adult castings from photographers, it seems to me if read carefully it's all for "Private use" and they don't do photography full time. Why can't these photographers use other sites to find what they are really looking for. Some of us use this site to make a living professionally. Do any other professional photographers agree with me on this?



Why should it matter to you if someone does it for private use and they don't work full time?

And yes, I'm an amateur, I shoot maybe one weekend a month and the adult shoots I do are for my own collection so come on, enlighten me.
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit



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