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Annie Snow is off-line
20 July 2012 18:20
alshepherd
Model
alshepherd
Location
United Kingdom
East Sussex
crowborough

Do you ever find if people are doing really well in what ever they are doing can be really rude? It's like they think they are better than anyone else. Yes its good to have confidence but there is no need to speak to someone in a rude manor. Put me off from working with a photographer recently peoples of the way he was talking to me, and about other people. Manners cost nothing. Bah rant over
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Kev W is off-lineSilver Member
20 July 2012 19:52
Follyhouse
Photographer
Follyhouse
Location
United Kingdom
Leicestershire
Hinckley

Quote from alshepherd
 [...]there is no need to speak to someone in a rude manor[...]



If he needs a butler, I'm interested



TarMoo is off-line
21 July 2012 01:11
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
Location
United Kingdom
Kent
Chatham

There is no excuse for rudeness. As a new teenage model who shoots up to nude you are going to be inundated with hundreds of TF offers, mostly from people who are not that good at photography, but are too stingy to hire models. If they feel that their portfolio is slightly better than a new model's portfolio then they feel justified in making a TF offer and get upset when this offer is rejected and tell the model that they have a portfolio full of poor images.

The quality of some photographers who pay models is a lot better than many of the cheapskates offering TF and in most cases models get a few photos from paid shoots for their portfolio as well. Obviously, your rates would need to be good to attract paid work, maybe around £20/hr to begin with up to art nude. I think you will find that dealing with people who will pay you is a lot less stressful than working with people with big egos looking for free shoots. The only caveat is that as a new model you should only work with photographers with good recent feedback you can check and it is better to be selective and choose to work with people who have a style of photography you like.
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22 July 2012 15:21
Hugh
Photographer


Quote from alshepherd
Do you ever find if people are doing really well in what ever they are doing can be really rude?...



Nearly all of the really good ones one here are very nice.
Nearly all of the nasty ones aren't very good.
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Paul Ottey is off-lineSilver Member
22 July 2012 15:27
otteypm
Photographer
otteypm
Location
United Kingdom
Staffordshire


Quote from Hugh
Nearly all of the really good ones one here are very nice. Nearly all of the nasty ones aren't very good.



That is my experience too.....
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Steven Jardine is off-linePlatinum Member
22 July 2012 15:29
RedChecker
Photographer
RedChecker
Location
United Kingdom
Buckinghamshire
Stoke Mandeville

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Paul Thompson is off-linePlatinum Member
22 July 2012 15:58
Biggles485
Photographer
Biggles485
Location
United Kingdom
Hampshire
Fareham

Quote from Hugh
Nearly all of the really good ones one here are very nice. Nearly all of the nasty ones aren't very good.


What a load of crap! There are some real arrogant pro's on this site that are so up their own backsides they wouldn't know daylight if it slapped them in the face! Sheep that bleat in the right places and those that just blow smoke up each others a*ses!




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nineveh is off-line
22 July 2012 16:11
w4pictures
Photographer
w4pictures
Location
United Kingdom
London
Chiswick

Quote from Biggles485

What a load of crap! There are some real arrogant pro's on this site that are so up their own backsides they wouldn't know daylight if it slapped them in the face! Sheep that bleat in the right places and those that just blow smoke up each others a*ses!







Don't sit on the fence - say what you really mean.

There are always exceptions, but if forums are an indication of what people are like, this one is full of people, pro and amateur, whose help and advice is fulsome and free. In several years, I haven't seen anything such as you describe - although, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what that is.


stiffler1991 is off-lineSilver Member
22 July 2012 16:11
jadestiff1991
Model
jadestiff1991
Location
United Kingdom
Suffolk
stowmarket

I read alot of forums and have noticed a few people I wouldnt work wit due to bad attitudes or the way they talk about models so these forums r handy to me to prevent me shooting with some1 I won't get on with but also do see some who I would like to work with due to good attitude.
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Rich G is off-lineSilver Member
22 July 2012 16:23
SMILESPHOTO
Photographer
SMILESPHOTO
Location
United Kingdom
Kent


I think Purestorm is generally a lot better mannered today than when I joined 3 years ago. I think the moderators kicked out some of the worst offenders as things were bordering on the libellous! A bit of banter is a good thing, as long as it's constructive - it does liven up the forums from time to time.
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