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Is a photographer ever justified in asking you to.......?

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2muchglam is off-lineSilver Member
12 July 2012 05:17
2muchglam
Photographer
2muchglam
Location
United Kingdom
Central
Falkirk

I have done this on many occasions for many different reasons.

1) The images on models profile are very out of date
2) The images on models profile have been highly edited/retouched
3) I want to see a more detailed image of a specific part that im going to be shooting, ie Face etc...

In my mind there is nothing wrong with this at all, models want to see our images before shooting with us and our port is our prospective shop window, If we can't show that we can work in a specific genre or area then it would put models off working with us.
I think it's exactly the same for me in the fact if I cant see what i need for a specific job in the models shop window I ask for a snapshot or simply move to another model.
It's in the models best interest in my opinion to do this as long as its not ridiculous images he/she is asking for or way outside the prospective shoot parameters.






GR Photography is off-line
12 July 2012 05:34
GRPhotography
Photographer
GRPhotography
Location
United Kingdom
Berkshire


I have done it a few times when a model has

A) not had a online port to show me images.
B) had out of date online port
C) said one of the following things
1. I have changed my hair colour
2. I have just had a baby but am back in shape no problem.


I have never asked for nude images and would never need to.

underwear bikini still shows a body shape.

The thing you have to ask yourself is,

What is the shoot? TF / Paid / Publication

If its a TF then I wouldn't bother and would just move on find someone else there are plenty of people to TF with (unfortunately)

Is it Paid i.e paying you... The client i.e the photography has every right to confirm the product.

Is it Publication/Syndication ... again the client i.e the photographer would need to know you was suitable

Just be careful what you send
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i-capcha is off-linePlatinum Member
12 July 2012 05:50
icapcha
Photographer
icapcha
Location
United Kingdom
Devon
London & Devon - I travel!

Obviously if her profile is out of date then that warrants asking, I personally book on what their port is like and recos from other togs!


Lisaliz is off-line
12 July 2012 05:51
Lisaliz
Model
Lisaliz
Location
United Kingdom
Essex


Really helpful replies, thanks guys.


Ray is off-lineSilver Member
12 July 2012 07:27
clearview_photography
Photographer
clearview_photography
Location
United Kingdom
County Durham
Durham

Quote from icapcha
sounds a bit GWC to me Lisaliz



Sounds more like a Guy WITHOUT Camera to be honest  surprise

Anything over 100 images might be a bit dodgy

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stiffler1991 is off-lineSilver Member
12 July 2012 07:40
jadestiff1991
Model
jadestiff1991
Location
United Kingdom
Suffolk
stowmarket

Probs just a good idea to take a natural photo of yourself to put up with just base make up and hair down so photographers can see a blank canvas to see if they have the look they can work with?
If you cant change the direction of the wind - adjust your sails.


Simon Young is off-lineSilver Member
12 July 2012 07:41
Allinthemind
Photographer
Allinthemind
Location
United Kingdom
Gloucestershire


Quote from Lisaliz
Is a photographer ever justified in asking you to take photos of yourself to send to him?

Is it always as dodgy as dodgeroonies?



Yes.

And...

Of course not.


There are many reasons why I might need to see a photograph that isn't on your folio, let alone a photograph that hasn't been retouched..


Si
In the "Information Age", continued ignorance must be a choice motivated initially through inherited beliefs.


Nick Edinburgh is off-lineSilver Member
12 July 2012 08:33
Nick_Edinburgh
Photographer
Nick_Edinburgh
Location
United Kingdom
Edinburgh
Edinburgh

As a general rule, if you feel uncomfortable with a request, you probably have good reason to be.


12 July 2012 09:04
flashman
Photographer
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Quote from Socialdisaster
 I ask a model who replied to a CC of mine for a recent, nude photo as her port was 2 years out of date and who knows what she looks like now?


Her mirror cheeky



Matt Harper is off-line
12 July 2012 09:31
mattharper
Photographer
mattharper
Location
United Kingdom
Devon
Paignton

Quote from Nick_Edinburgh
As a general rule, if you feel uncomfortable with a request, you probably have good reason to be.



I don't think that is correct, some people might find something many others find perfectly normal and acceptable, shocking 

So,  a new model is asked if she has any topless pictures as she has none on her portfolio, after replying to a casting. She might be shocked, but are topless images shocking?  Not nowadays and a photographer could be completely entitled to ask this.





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