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Bailey-K is off-lineSilver Member
05 July 2012 04:34
BaileyK
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BaileyK
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Hertfordshire


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168894/Shoddy-genius-Photographs-taken-U-S-Olympic-team-slammed-disgraceful-wonder-mistakes-deliberate.html


Michael Dainty is off-line
05 July 2012 05:14
Mike_Dainty_ARTIST
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Mike_Dainty_ARTIST
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Merseyside
Liverpool

 One of the secrets of being (or seeming to be) a good photographer is to never show your bad work. (Doh! just give that secret away) Sometimes though good photographers DO, either for effect or because they just don't give a flying fig.
Hope this copy and paste works on a discussion here but if not look in our forums for An egg whisk and a sink plunger

http://www.purestorm.com/forum/readThread.aspx?id=157908

Mike.


gerryquiff is off-lineSilver Member
05 July 2012 06:38
gerryquiff
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gerryquiff
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United Kingdom
Lanarkshire
Bonnie Scotland

That what happens when you offer TFP for important pictures 
I got a hot rod ford, and a two dollar bill; And I know a spot right over the hill. Theres soda pop and the dancings free So if you wanna have fun, come along with me.


Spike is off-lineSilver Member
05 July 2012 06:38
Spike
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Spike
Location
United Kingdom
Hertfordshire
St Albans

The story of "The Emperor's new clothes" springs to mind.

"Photoshop is there to cut diamonds, not polish turds"


Lysander is off-lineSilver Member
05 July 2012 07:47
Lysander
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Lysander
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United Kingdom
West Midlands
Wolverhampton

Deliberately subversive.frowncheeky

If only he'd used a camera with a dirty sensor, instead of apoplexy, his critics would have suffered aneurisms. surprise
"I would rather be Schroedinger's Cat than one of Pavlov's Dogs."


KT101 is off-lineSilver Member
05 July 2012 09:24
kt101
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kt101
Location
United Kingdom
Hertfordshire
Borehamwood

Probably trying to set a new trend.
OOOOPPPSSSS. Hold on. The GWCs have already done that.
What do I know about photography..... I'm a mechanic/milkman/driver/dogsbody. etc. etc. etc.


Michael Dainty is off-line
05 July 2012 17:10
Mike_Dainty_ARTIST
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Mike_Dainty_ARTIST
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United Kingdom
Merseyside
Liverpool

smiley 


Ashley Mark Pomeroy is off-line
06 July 2012 14:29
ayearepee
Photographer
ayearepee
Location
United Kingdom
Wiltshire
Salisbury

Ouch. I'm firmly of the opinion that he really is a terrible photographer, and that the stuff about being an unconventional artist is bluster. Now, he won an award for this photo:
http://www.cas.sk/clanok/159611/fotografa-preslavil-zaber-obamu-v-prahe-na-miesto-cinu-sa-vratil.html

And taken in isolation it's really good. Stylish, clever. Reminds me a bit of this famous photo by David Burnett, of Al Gore, taken with a Holga:
http://www.davidburnett.com/fmsetgallery.html?gallery=Holga%20Eye

But the rest of David Burnett's work is superb. He's got an eye. Perhaps he had to shoot hundreds of images to get this one, for example:
http://www.davidburnett.com/detail.html?sortNumber=16&gallery=The%20Presidents%20&skipno=0

But he knew to exhibit that one and not the others. In contrast, looking at his gallery and on Google and so forth this other guy's work is uniformly mediocre. His award-winning photograph of President Obama was a fluke after all. He has a limited stock of bad ideas. He also took this photo of a tennis player whose face is obscured by a ball, which I've seen before:
http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/7/6/30/n1759504.htm

It's one of those pseudo-clever things you see on internet modelling sites. One of those ideas that seems cute for the first split-second second, but the more you think about it the more stupid it is. Judging by Google Images he's basically an events / red carpet shooter, although he doesn't even seem to be good at that:
http://goo.gl/xYdgo

The pictures look as if he was standing next to the official photographer. On a cloudy day. He doesn't have an eye. No personality. Any small-time school football photographer or school portrait photographer could have produced equal or superior work. The Olympic images are doubly bad. I've seen plenty of high fashion photography that looks awful at first glance, but you can tell that there's something going on; there's a vision, and as time goes by you can appreciate it. But with this stuff you can see exactly what he was trying to achieve, and you can see exactly how badly he failed. Which is worse than failing utterly, in my book.

I mean, students at art school quickly learn that if your artistic statement is vague enough, no-one can tell whether you succeeded or failed. This chap wasn't smart enough for that. They look like the source images shot for movie posters or DVD cases or magazine covers, with the expectation that they're just a template for the Photoshop work - the *real work*.

Now, perhaps they really *are* source images that were leaked without his say-so, and for some reason he's decided to pretend that he's infallibly brilliant. In which case he's a rubbish spin doctor. Perhaps he annoyed someone at AFP, and they decided to destroy him. Whatever the case I can't see the White House asking him to photograph the president any time soon.

Another thing. The report says that the chap "has been a photographer for more than 20 years". Given that he was on assignment for AFP he presumably has some talent - persistence? - but I can't count the number of portfolios here and on The Other Leading Modelling Site which blather on about how the photographer has twenty, thirty years of experience. In fact it's usually "over thirty years". Never fifteen or seven or twenty-eight, always "over thirty years", that very formulation:
http://goo.gl/i9mVM

Nine thousand results. "Over thirty years". It's suspiciously consistent and not particularly impressive; after thirty years of plugging away at something I would expect either and incredibly well-developed individual style or absolute technical mastery, but that's seldom the case.



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