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River meets Nick Giles...

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28 September 2011 14:06
Vas
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I actually prefer the first one to the rest - I just thing it works better as a cohesive image.

If you like the implied topless ones, put them on - you're not obliged to work to any level with anybody. If they get the hump about it it's largely their problem.



As for the posts about Nick - it's interesting that people accuse him of bullying while bitching about him when he has no means to reply. What exactly do you call that? I saw nothing at all unpleasant about Ciaran's post, I see it as unpleasant when people decide to bring up former members of the site to insult or ridicule them behind their backs. As for Nick's work - it is and was fantastic work, and hasn't lost the plot at all, although I'm sure he won't worry too much about your opinion.


 jivago Photographic is off-line
28 September 2011 15:18
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Quote from Vas
I actually prefer the first one to the rest - I just thing it works better as a cohesive image. If you like the implied topless ones, put them on - you're not obliged to work to any level with anybody. If they get the hump about it it's largely their problem. As for the posts about Nick - it's interesting that people accuse him of bullying while bitching about him when he has no means to reply. What exactly do you call that? I saw nothing at all unpleasant about Ciaran's post, I see it as unpleasant when people decide to bring up former members of the site to insult or ridicule them behind their backs. As for Nick's work - it is and was fantastic work, and hasn't lost the plot at all, although I'm sure he won't worry too much about your opinion.


RE the question in the thread:- River is very beautiful and has some strong portraits on her portfolio. His work can be superb! – But regarding the thread shots, there does not seem to be very much challenging, nor original about the shots here. He has done much better work. River has better  work in my opinion – For what it is worth!

RE the quote above:- Ha Ha! - Sophistry and predictable at best – You will know very well the circumstances leading to the ban and Serena is entitled to her view. Giles espoused some views that were highly objectionable and crass to many. It is a fact that he was banned for causing offence. In the real world, the type of comments he made would have led to him being sacked from many work places or probably asked to leave public places. PURESTORM probably felt that it had duty to the wider membership and a corporate responsibility.

I went head to head with him in a few threads and actually got private messages from what seemed like his own little coterie. It seemed like the cult of the bully in the school playground. For those that defend those type of comments – What does it say about your own standards? – No don’t bother answering sad

 Goodbye re Giles

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28 September 2011 16:18
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Quote from jivago

RE the question in the thread:- River is very beautiful and has some strong portraits on her portfolio. His work can be superb! – But regarding the thread shots, there does not seem to be very much challenging, nor original about the shots here. He has done much better work. River has better  work in my opinion – For what it is worth!

RE the quote above:- Ha Ha! - Sophistry and predictable at best – You will know very well the circumstances leading to the ban and Serena is entitled to her view. Giles espoused some views that were highly objectionable and crass to many. It is a fact that he was banned for causing offence. In the real world, the type of comments he made would have led to him being sacked from many work places or probably asked to leave public places. PURESTORM probably felt that it had duty to the wider membership and a corporate responsibility.

I went head to head with him in a few threads and actually got private messages from what seemed like his own little coterie. It seemed like the cult of the bully in the school playground. For those that defend those type of comments – What does it say about your own standards? – No don’t bother answering sad

 Goodbye re Giles




+1!!!!!


On the subject of the portfolio images, some really strong shots there, but I dont think they really add anything to your portfolio, and there is not much point putting up images indicating levels that your no longer doing


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28 September 2011 17:07
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For Gods sake people, this is meant to be a thread to review River`s pictures and not of the person who took them, regardless what you think of him. If you don`t like him that much, go and tell him personally.

River, I like the first three, with 2 being the favourite because of your eyes
`Do you know where the wild roses grow so sweet and scarlet and free`


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28 September 2011 17:09
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nice helmet


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28 September 2011 17:12
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You look very beautiful in all of them and you could use the first and last anyway as they're more fashion than implied nude. I wouldn't put the implied ones up for the reasons you mentioned and because some people seem to think that if you've upped your levels once, you won't mind upping them again and that it doesn't really matter if they take something they shouldn't because of that. Save yourself the hassle.
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29 September 2011 03:00
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I love them all. If I had to choose it would be 1 and 4.

Well done.


29 September 2011 03:04
River
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Thankyou everyone for your comments Really appriciate them!
"I do this because Im having fun. The minute I stop having fun, I'll just walk away"- Heath Ledger


Silverlight is off-linePlatinum Member
29 September 2011 03:08
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Not sure about these river. There is a mismatch in styles. Wearing a helmet topless is ether a cheeky fun glamour image or a dark sexy narrative shot.

Your expression is more beauty in these and it doesn't really work for me.

I think they would be better shot again with clothes and do an implied shot again in context.

I think the last 2 would work much better without the large pink jem that jars the colour balance.

Of all the shots the last works best for me personally



Christian Scott is off-lineSilver Member
29 September 2011 05:10
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Quote from River
Thankyou everyone for your comments Really appriciate them!



I'm not talking to you..you look beautiful! Like Wayne said a bit mismatched. But you could wear a tea towl and I'd dig it.

I'm friends with Nick though and have never seen evidence of him and serena working together. I don't think he would. However..I would like to shoot some
Behind the scenes of that shoot :-)



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