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Ciaran Whyte is off-line
28 September 2011 12:07
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Quote from Andy_B
Wow, ciaran - that's an unpleasant post.

I'm sure he's a lovely bloke in real life (never met him)... but while Nick was here he trolled for England. PS is a MUCH nicer place now, and his absence played a part in that improvement.

He seemed to have a lot of time-outs and 'second chances' before he was turfed out for good. I don't think he was treated unfairly.



Yeah perhaps... but strange that you don't see Serena's post as unpleasant?

As I said, I don't know Nick from being on PS. I'm not doubting that he stirred the pot, trolled and probably upset a lot of people & ruffled a lot of feathers. But does that make it OK for Serena to character assassinate him in a critique thread, particularly without the right to reply? At least I haven't assassinated her character - I've simply questioned her integrity, which is easily proved (either way) by her showing the proof of the pudding... i.e. the pics
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28 September 2011 12:10
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Yeah perhaps... but strange that you don't see Serena's post as unpleasant?



Not really. I thought it was fairly measured.


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28 September 2011 12:13
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Lovely shots, but would you expect anything less from Mr Giles. Superb work both
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28 September 2011 12:19
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 "But does that make it OK for Serena to character assassinate him in a critique thread, particularly without the right to reply? "

It's a bit rude, especially as his work is good.


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28 September 2011 12:20
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Quote from Andy_B
I'm sure he's a lovely bloke in real life (never met him)... but while Nick was here he trolled for England. PS is a MUCH nicer place now, and his absence played a part in that improvement.



It might be a nicer place for you, but let me tell you, on the models' side of the fence PS seems to have taken an unpleasant turn for the worse since a couple of people left or were booted ...

I'm totally in agreement with Ciaran here that any comments about Nick and his presence here were completely unfounded on a thread which was supposed to be about River's pictures and feedback.  Serena wasn't the only one, but she was the first and opened the floodgates.  It was uncalled for and off topic.

River, I think 2 is absolutely beautiful.  I personally would put one of these up and sod what everyone else thinks.  As I said to another clothed only model recently, you can always put a note on your profile saying something like 'I very rarely work to implied topless but I am very selective about the projects I choose to work to this level on'.  That way no one can get the hump that you say you do something you don't.  You run the risk of people moaning 'well you worked it with him, why not me?' but that's a risk you run when saying yes or no to an offer anyway.  But these are lovely shots, 2 especially, and it would be a shame if they weren't seen simply because some idiots might hassle you



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28 September 2011 12:39
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Thanks Fleur and to all others who have posted comments about the images and not about Nick/reason why he was banned/if his work is good or not etc. That was the point of the post after all
Really appriciate everything you are saying and will take on board everyones opinions. Many thanks
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28 September 2011 12:48
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Quote from ciaran
Your posts continue to amaze me Serena. You list Steve_Stanford as being one of the best art nude photographers, yet you think Nicks work has lost the plot? If anything, this statement suggests that it is you have lost the plot? Regardless of his blunt nature (possibly even what some people may consider abusive), his work stands on it's own and to try and bring it down, simply because you don't like the guy is pretty pathetic.



Whilst I now know Nick from FaceBook, I was pretty new here when he was banned, so can't comment on why he was banned, or on what running spats you may both have had,. But from what little I do know of him and his work, I just can't imagine you'd be his type of model, so can't believe he'd actually have worked with you? Of course, if I'm wrong, I'd love to see the images? If not, perhaps most of the other things you say about him are fibs too?



A little OT... sorry River (shots are lovely BTW)



+1

I don't think its really on to bring up an opinion like that behind someone's back on a forum they're banned on. I've met and worked with Nick myself, and have found him to be a perfectly professional photographer who produces good work.

Back on topic, River they are all stunning but number 2 is awesome
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28 September 2011 12:52
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Quote from River
Thanks Fleur and to all others who have posted comments about the images and not about Nick/reason why he was banned/if his work is good or not etc. That was the point of the post after all Really appriciate everything you are saying and will take on board everyones opinions. Many thanks



Sorry River but I just wondered where NG had vanished to.   I had no problem with Nick except for his abuse of animals for so called  " sport ".   Other than that he seemed a OK bloke frown


28 September 2011 13:25
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 Enough about Nick Giles.
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28 September 2011 13:31
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Not sure about the crash helmet ones, though certainly good quality images, just not really to my taste, really like the two mask ones, very nice.
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