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17 November 2010 12:52
River
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Thanks Nina. My stomach is flat but un-defined. Thats what Im looking to improve on
You can get weighted hula hoops which are specifically for toning, but I was wondering if anyone had used them before and if they are worth the extra money.
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17 November 2010 12:54
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Quote from River
Thanks Nina. My stomach is flat but un-defined. Thats what Im looking to improve on You can get weighted hula hoops which are specifically for toning, but I was wondering if anyone had used them before and if they are worth the extra money.



Oooo iv never heard of them before but i bet theyre really good!

Have you tried pilates? If you go on youtube you can get specific 10 min workouts for ur abs xx
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17 November 2010 13:06
River
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Quote from FelicityFatale
No, you cannot "tone" one area of your body.  What women widely believe is toning is actually a combination of losing fat and building muscle.  You cannot spot lose fat.  To "tone" your stomach and see your six pack, you first need to get your body-fat down to about 15% - that in itself requires a serious amount of dedication and hard work EVERY DAY.  Then at the same time you need to be slowly building your abdominal muscles.
Losing weight and building muscle isn't rocket science, but nor is it easy - otherwise we'd all have amazing bodies and be models.  It takes hard work and dedication, and I suggest that skipping and gym ball-ing at home is not really going to get you very far in the long run.  Training at home may work for some people, but usually they have had some prior training first and posses seemingly infinite amounts of motivation and enthusiasm.



Felicity, thankyou for your advice.
How would I find out my body fat percentage? I remember doing it about a year ago in a Boot's store on one of the machines. I think it was about 21%, but I cant remember for sure.
As I said, Im not looking to loose weight. I have a very healthy diet and my weight has been constant for a few years (I know Im only 18, almost 19, this will change ect ect). Its literally just toning. Is it impossible to tone without loosing weight aswell?
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17 November 2010 13:38
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This video shows how to get the best out of an exercise ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQZZnlJbic&feature=youtube_gdata_player


18 November 2010 04:46
FelicityFatale
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Quote from River
Its literally just toning. Is it impossible to tone without loosing weight aswell?



What people refer to as "being toned" is when you can see the muscle.  You can't see the muscle if it is covered with fat.  If it's not covered with fat, you can see the muscle.  Ergo, you need to lose fat to look toned.

BTW, those body fat testers in boots etc are a piece of junk.  I've had readings varying from 9% to 30% in the span of a few days.  What they actually measure is the resistance and conductivity of the free electrolytes in your body, therefore if you have more water you will read higher.  Just dehydrating first can make a substantial difference to the reading.

It's not a number you need to know unless you're an athlete on the cutting edge or a bodybuilder.  I shouldn't really have put it into my post above, my apologies - most of my personal training work over the years has been with specialist groups that do require it to be measured.

Seriously, the best exercise is to get down the gym and start lifting weights.  It'll give you a cardio workout, it'll make your muscles look bigger (also making you look more "toned") and it will prevent the onset of diseases like osteoporosis.  It's one of the best things you can do for your body as a young woman.
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18 November 2010 06:44
River
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Hi Felicity,

Thankyou for your reply, the whole losing weight in order to tone aspect is a lot clearer to me now.
Can I ask whether lifting weights would be stressful on my knees? As I said in my original post, I don't have very good knees, I have been given a few leg exercises to do every day by my doctor.
Also, If possible, I am looking for exercises I can do at home, as going to the gym may not be possible, hence the original question of skipping and hula-hooping. If these would not be efficient enough (as well as the suggestion of a gym ball), is there any other equiptment, or exercises, which would be more sufficient for what I want to achieve?
"I do this because Im having fun. The minute I stop having fun, I'll just walk away"- Heath Ledger


18 November 2010 07:17
FelicityFatale
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Quote from River
Hi Felicity, Thankyou for your reply, the whole losing weight in order to tone aspect is a lot clearer to me now. Can I ask whether lifting weights would be stressful on my knees? As I said in my original post, I don't have very good knees, I have been given a few leg exercises to do every day by my doctor. Also, If possible, I am looking for exercises I can do at home, as going to the gym may not be possible, hence the original question of skipping and hula-hooping. If these would not be efficient enough (as well as the suggestion of a gym ball), is there any other equiptment, or exercises, which would be more sufficient for what I want to achieve?



I actually started lifting heavy weights in order to fix a decades worth of problems with my knees that Dr's told me I would end up in a wheelchair for.  I fixed the problems.  

You need to see a physio really, not a doctor unless they're a specialist.

The way to build muscle is by tearing them and allowing them to rebuild.  It is VERY difficult to do this level of workout at home without alot of very expensive equipment.  You really need to join a gym, or a powerlifting club etc.  Other sports will have the same result eventually, but fast results will come from going to the gym and having a few sessions with a personal trainer.

Like I said, gym balls can be an effective tool when used with weights, but they are really designed for rehabilitation use and increasing core strength.  That is just one aspect of a workout.

Plus skipping is going to get very boring and actually is probably not very good for your knees!  Bouncing up and down on them for half an hour every day isn't something I'd recommend to any client.  Even boxers just do it for a minute or two as part of a larger circuit including many other exercises.  Then there's the other thing, I dunno about you, but the thought of skipping every day for half an hour just sends me to sleep with boredom.  You might manage it for a couple of days, maybe a week, but surely you'll be bored stiff?
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18 November 2010 07:31
River
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I'm pretty sure I will be referred to a physiotherapist when I see my new doctor (the one who gave me the exercises was back in Sussex, before I moved). So lifting weights would actually HELP my knees? You can tell Im completley clueless about this, the only things I lift are dozens of washing baskets upstairs every day Doesn't weight lifting focus mainly on the arms?
To be honest I probably would get bored of skipping, I was thinking of trying to skip whilst watching TV...but then again, thinking of my knees, it might not be the best idea.
"I do this because Im having fun. The minute I stop having fun, I'll just walk away"- Heath Ledger


18 November 2010 07:43
FelicityFatale
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Quote from River
Doesn't weight lifting focus mainly on the arms?



Actually quite the opposite.  Powerlifting, for example, is considered to be the classic competition to measure ones entire body strength.  There are three main lifts - the squat which uses the whole body except the arms, the dead lift which uses the whole body, and the bench press which uses the chest, arms and back.

My approach to training is actually built around these three lifts (plus some additional smaller ones) and some cardio training if the client needs it.  Like I said before, I'm a big advocate to women doing this sort of training, it's a brilliant all over workout for your muscles and your heart.  You feel on top of the world when you complete a big lift.

As for your knee, it does depend what is wrong with it.  I had chronic tendonitis alone with a degradation of the cartilage.  By strengthening the muscles and eating the right foods I managed to completely repair a condition that had plagued me for over ten years, in just three months or so.  These things can be done, but the problem is often that GP's are often not specialists within their field and therefore are not aware of these solutions.  A good physio would cost you £30 for an hours consultation - I suggest you find one that specialises in either athletes injuries and rehabilitation or even lower body specialisation and see them.  They may even know a great rehabilitation personal trainer who you can see and they will suggest to you ways to improve.  A good QUALIFIED personal trainer will again be able to recommend to you ways to rehabilitate yourself and then improve your body image.  I couldn't afford much money when I started seeing mine, so I only saw her once a month.  Most trainers will be happy for you to do this, and the initial lifestyle consultation is often free.

If you were closer I'd suggest popping down here and I'd spend a few hours with you going through this, but you're unfortunately a little far away!
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18 November 2010 08:00
River
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Thanks Felicity. I don't think my knees are serious enough for me to need to go and see a specialist rehabilitation personal trainer. I can't remember the same of the condition I was diagnosed with, but it is a very common problem in young women where the muscles surrounding my joint arent strong enough to support my knee. I get a bit of pain when I cycle or run too much, or if i bend down for too long. My last GP advised me to see my local physiotherapist to continue the exercises and check up on progress. It doesnt trouble me too much, I just didnt want to start doing any strenuous toning exercises that might make it play up, which is why I asked.
In regards to the gym membership, I really don't think I would be able to get to it often enough to make it worth paying for. Also, Im meant to be saving up for a gap year project abroad next year, I dont want to have to fork out every month for something which isnt a neccessity (if you know what I mean). I understand that without a gym, I may not be able to gain the best results though.
"I do this because Im having fun. The minute I stop having fun, I'll just walk away"- Heath Ledger



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