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health reasons ( yet another chaperone thread )

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17 August 2009 19:16
whicker
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Quote from TMG

I wondered about this, but even i can see that a condition like epilepsy might justify having someone along who is used to dealing with a fit. I certainly wouldn't know what to do, and it would probably panic me.



Yes, I wondered that too- and fair enough. But even so- to have a condition that requires constant assistants must be pretty tough. Eseentially it must mean that the person is never ale to do anything on their own (such as drive.) I'm not being sarcastic, apologies if it comes out as such.
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17 August 2009 19:18
regthecat
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Quote from TMG

I wondered about this, but even i can see that a condition like epilepsy might justify having someone along who is used to dealing with a fit. I certainly wouldn't know what to do, and it would probably panic me.
There may also be other conditions I don't know about which would justify a health chaperone.
It's all a non issue anyway. I couldn't care less whether some models want a chaperone - entirely up to them. It just puzzles me that models go into modelling with the idea at the back of their minds that photographers are potentially untrustworthy. The silly girls who say that any photographer who objects to a chaperone is automatically dodgy deserve the knights in shining armour who leap to their rescue. Let them all work together in mutual and self-righteous  harmony.




What they can't see however is that the the Knight in Shining Armour sometimes ain't all he is cracked up to be,

I have no objection to chaperones - as long as they bugger off while the shoot is happening. What I do have a problem with is these white knights perpetuating the myth that anyone but them is potentially a rapist when the truth maybe be alot nearer home.
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17 August 2009 19:20
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Quote from KatielouiseArmstrong
Personally I think that any 'tog' that says no to chaperone in the first place is a bit iffy! after all... YOU are going to meet someone who youve never met before and in any other circumstancess would you do this? No. (i hope) Some photographers may get a bit offended by this, as they might think youre implying that you dont trust them.




If you assume that they are 'iffy', then you are implying that they are untrustworthy !


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17 August 2009 19:25
TMG
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Quote from regthecat
What they can't see however is that the the Knight in Shining Armour sometimes ain't all he is cracked up to be,

I have no objection to chaperones - as long as they bugger off while the shoot is happening. What I do have a problem with is these white knights perpetuating the myth that anyone but them is potentially a rapist when the truth maybe be alot nearer home.


No, they can't see it. Why they can't see it, f@@k knows. Seems a shining eye and a beaming smile, accompanied no doubt by a sweaty handshake, takes you far when it comes to flattering a model.  It's enough to make one puke, but you've got to admit it works.






17 August 2009 19:39
regthecat
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Quote from TMG

No, they can't see it. Why they can't see it, f@@k knows. Seems a shining eye and a beaming smile, accompanied no doubt by a sweaty handshake, takes you far when it comes to flattering a model.  It's enough to make one puke, but you've got to admit it works.








Unfortunately that will always be the case.
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17 August 2009 19:52
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In response to the OP's initial post only - Well I have come into this thread very late on and have not read the several pages up to this but my opinion is that if a model has health issues that necessitate a chaperone in order to make the shoot possible it is also necessary to advise the tog as to what the condition is so that the tog is aware of what her or she is dealing with, for their own safety and reassurance. If this has been said or is inconsequential because of previous replies I haven't read then I apologise. I have a son with a heart condition and it is not enough when attending events to state he has a condition that requires certain precautions .. I always need to advise fully as to the nature of his condition so all people involved are aware of their responsibilities, risks and possible implications. A vague warning does not suffice in circumstances where serious consequences could occur that necessitate constant precautions to be in place that exclude any prior awareness of the tog who is as much part of the shoot as anyone could be.
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17 August 2009 20:02
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i am sure a tog posted a thread about a model who needed a chaperone but he didnt understand saying if she was about to drop at any second should she be modelling, does anyone else remeber this?
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